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Friday, May 23, 2008

• Pflueger Summit: Some Casting Comparisons

I'm going to compare casting distances with different rods using the Pflueger Summit WLP. This is by no means going to be a very scientific approach. This is designed to give people interested in the Pflueger Summit an idea as to which rod they would like to pair the reel with.

I measured out a straight line in the back yard in increments of 10 feet stretching out to 110 feet because I know 110ft is about my maximum casting distance for any of my rigs. The Summit has about 120 feet of 20lb Gamma Copolymer spooled on it. The lure I chose was a 1/4oz Rat-L-Trap because Traps are known for going long distances. Conditions were clear and calm without any wind. I used a MH 6'6 rod rated for weights of 3/8 to 1oz and 10-20lb test line, M 6'6 rated for weights of 1/4 to 3/4oz and 8-20lb test line, and a MH 7' fast action tip that does not list rated weights, but can handle 10-20lb test line. I made four sidearm casts with each rod.

I stood in the same spot for each cast with my feet close together, toes facing forward, and used a sidearm cast. I always measured to the nearest foot or half foot. If the cast was not in a straight line, I disregarded the cast. If the cast only deviated a small distance from my marked line, I made an eyeball estimation horizontally from where the lure landed. I left the brakes on the reel the same for every cast. I have it set to about one and 1/8 turns or 31 "clicks" of the cast control knob and the magnetic brakes were set at one click/turn away from the max of ten. All the internal brakes were pushed in (turned off). It's what I was using last night while throwing some topwater lures.

Sometimes the Trap would bounce when it hit the ground, so I may not have recorded the actual casting distance a couple of times, but just know that it still landed pretty close to the original spot. Also since the reel was not spooled with a lot of line, I'm not sure if I could have made longer casts with added diameter vs RPMs on my side. In the cases where the lure landed to one side, the distance might have only been a few inches longer than what I recorded. My measurements were not truly scientific, but I think we can live with a little bit of fuzzy math since we're talking differences in inches here.

I always noticed that a medium action rod casts a little longer than my medium-heavy rod. You can see that in the individual numbers. That first cast with the medium rod may have been a fluke. The other three casts were over 100 feet. I'm sure I could have squeezed out a little more distance by adjusting the brakes. What gets me is that the 7' rod, which should give me longer casting distance with the Trap, gave me about the same distance. The reel I normally have on the 7 footer can outcast the Summit with the same rod using spinnerbaits, although that is with 12lb line, not 20. I may set out to measure what that reel can do and compare. That particular rod does have a fast tip and the tip on my MH is stiffer. Lighter line is known to give longer casting distances as well. Maybe one day I can give 12lb line a go and see if there are any differences. My sidearm casting technique and upper body strength, or the lack thereof, may affect the numbers as well. It's something to consider.

While I was out there, I put the Summit on a 6'6 ML finesse rod and tossed a Senko-type plastic fairly well. I'd say I was throwing it at least 90 to 95 feet with the same reel settings as used above. If you recall, in my original Pflueger Summit review, I had wondered about using the Summit on a rod designed for lighter lures. I have another ML rod meant for cranking.

Any questions? Any other tests you want me to try?

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Anonymous said...

So does this prove the longer rods yield longer casts is a myth or is it more about using the correct equipment based on your size, strength?

BassFishingDem said...

Well, as I pointed out early on in the post, my approach wasn't the least bit scientific. I didn't throw that disclaimer in just for kicks. I just wanted a ballpark idea to help me decide which rod to put the Summit on. I do tend to believe that a longer rod allows for longer casts, but rods with a faster tip load up better, so rated power must matter more. Several other factors do come into play.

You should read the E5 casting comparison post to see what I mean.

Much of it does involve using the proper equipment, including smaller line diameters, line type, a finely tuned reel, and lure size, but other more personal things do seem to matter, including upper body strength and range of motion. That being said, it has been better than two years since writing that post. I have since learned that for most of us, 100-120 feet is about the average limit, depending on the weight of the lure. My Pflueger Patriarch casts much smoother, as does my Curado E5. I've been meaning to do a repeat of the Summit comparison. In the E5 casting post, the same Medium rod was used. It proved to be excellent for getting some distance.

Ideally, then, perhaps a medium power 7' rod would outperform more often than not.